Getting out of the booby traps set by George Bush: Would take the next President's Entire Term

  May 24 2008  | Views 626 |  Comments  (26)
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  Girdhar Gopal posted 2 mnths ago

I agree, but the inevitable can be delayed for a decade or two with the right policies in Washinton. Reduction in wasteful expenditure on Iraq, the funds saved could be diverted to a Manhattan(type)Project for Energy Sufficiency in Alteranate fuels, will give another lease of life. The Republican hundred year war in Iraq(per McCain) will hasten the inevitable.
      The Great Universities in the US are still well ahead of the rest of the world. But they must be given something to do: and must be fed with international talent: it will also involve sacrifice on the part of the average man, which could be problematic.
Rgds, Girdhar



  Girdhar Gopal posted 2 mnths ago

Thank you DW: I should not end up as one of those who did nothing while 'Rome burned', george Bush is playing the fiddle like Nero, but even a puny effort to douse the fire might salve my conscience a bit.
Rgds, Girdhar



  Avinashjee posted 3 mnths ago

Girdhar,

What I said about the technological edge has a basis. I have seen this time and again in my forty seven years (less actually since the observation period with any degree of rationality starts only after 15 or 16 years of age) that when the pendulum starts swinging, it does not stop till it goes completely the other way. Also, the speed with which things happen, always keeps on increasing with time. In Biochemistry we call this critical mass. Things keep happening below the surface. They are visible but they do not seem to be so significant. When several such things accumulate, a critical mass is gathered and then the change appears on the surface and with inreasing speed goes forward. In real life too, the same thing applies. Look at how quickly the german wall broke. I still remember the day - I was in Salk institute that day. Ross (an australian) came and started talking about the news that there is a feeling that the wall should go. By that time years of changes in the east block had already taken place. But on the surface the things still seemed as if they will take years more. Then the consensus of opinion in our lab was that it will take a few years before the infamous wall goes. I said that the wall will go in a matter of months. They looked at me and asked me the basis of my statement. I gave them the same basis of critical mass. The wall went in two months.

Things have been changing for the US for a very long time. Once the critical mass is gathered, the things will change fast. And I think critical mass is only inches away.

Regards

Avinash 



  dimwit posted 3 mnths ago

GG,

There is no doubt in my mind that it is time for a democrat in the white house.  It was that time seven years ago, and then again three years ago.  Obama or Hillary - whoever it is, will be better than Bush or McCain for the US.  No doubt at all in my mind about that.  But will the Americans do the right this after failing twice... remains to be seen.

It is true, in Canada, we are insulated a bit.  Even though the manufacturing sector is hurting because of the high Canadian dollar - the oil, and wheat, and other abundance combined with the extremely low population is somehow all insulating us from the inflations of the world.  

Apologies... if I appeared nonchalant about it all.  But its not like I can do anything about it.  I don't even have a vote :)

Cheers
Dimwit



  Girdhar Gopal posted 3 mnths ago

DW: It is not a question of getting worked up for nothing. Getting excited and doing nothing is one thing but getting  concerned and doing something is another. I intend working hard for whoever the democratic nominee  is. You are entitled to think that Bush was  not an  unadulterated disaster as I am entitled to to think otherwise. But one has to act on one's belief.
      This reminds me of Pastor Niemoeller, a liberal theologian under Nazi Germany, when talking of the slow and inexorable advance of the Nazi machine on the one hand and the inaction of the liberal forces on the other:
He said, and I am not quoting exactly: They(the Nazis) came for the Jews and I was silent, because I was not a Jew. They came for the Gypsy's and I was silent ,as I was not a Gypsy. They came for the Catholics and I was silent because I was not a Catholic. Finally they came for me and there was no one available to speak for me.
      DW it is good to get worked up on acts that are wrong. And what is happening in Iraq, what is happening in relation to lack of health care in the US, the lack of planning on finding alternate fuels, global warming are all alarming developments and though every thing cannot be attributed to George Bush he has been a strong contributor or accessory before or at least during the fact to these problems.   

        You live in Canada, that is marginally affected by what happens in the US but we are directly affected in the US by actions taken by the US Government. I will do what ever is possible to democratically elect a decent President that will at least turn direction to a better future in the US.

Rgds, Girdhar



  Girdhar Gopal posted 3 mnths ago

Thank you Kartha for your input. Yes, the Military Industrial Complex(so described in a warning address by departing President Dwight D Eisenhower, to beware of the growth in the nexus between industry and the military). That complex is in full swing. A lot of thinkers now consider other 'wars' to be more expedient, such as a War on Energy Independence, including the search for sources for renewable energy.Intertwined with this is a War to save the planet from global environmental catastrophe that is staring us in the face. Further the war on terror will have to continue but it has to be more nuanced and should employ both the carrot and the stick to get Islamic fundamentalism into less destructive paths than it has been travelling thus far. So I think the US has enough challenges to spend its undoubted talents, material and money on and the next election will decide if it changes direction.
Kind regards, Girdhar



  Girdhar Gopal posted 3 mnths ago

Avinash: As I have said, I was not one of those who got him in: they were aided and abetted by nine or rather six justices of the US Supreme Court who will be indicted by history as political hacks.
      You are more qualified to judge technology than I, but the great Universities like Princeton, Caltech,MIT,Stanford etc etc still exixt. They should be helped both by money and people(to keep immigration of technical talent flowing) I feel it is quite possible to retain the edge: and I hope I am right.
Rgds, Girdhar



  Avinashjee posted 3 mnths ago

Girdhar
A very good analysis. But I do not understand ho the US citizens gave this dud not only the Presidency but even a second term. The guy seemed a complete dud even during his first term campaign and his igknowledge showed pretty clearly. How is it then that the fellow got a second term?

And as far as staying ahead on the technology course is concerned, the days are already past for the US on this front. There are quite a few countries that are ready to take over and they will.
Regards
Avinash



  Dr. P. E. Sarangadhara Kartha posted 3 mnths ago

Dear Giridharji,

An excellent analysis and a performance appraisal. Unfortunately (for Bush of course), the marks allotted are all in the negative domain. I am not here to refute these marks or the logic behind their allotment.  I may like you to look at another aspect that could have led US of A to the present ‘booby trap’.

At the outset, let me confess that the following argument is based on a hypothesis or at the most a conjecture and I do not have the wherewithal to prove or disprove it.

One of the major contributors to the economic energy of USA is the military related industries. It thrives, when there are more hotspots on the surface of this planet and arms & war equipment are in constant demand. Let us remember, the recovery from the 1929 crash was achieved more by the WW II than anything else. WWII, also made America an undisputed military & economic superpower. The big war was ended in 1945. However, US fought many more wars during the last 60 years than any other nation on Earth. This direct or indirect involvement in conflict situations has always enhanced American muscle power, rather than weakening it. This is a reality.

As the time goes on, the situation is getting more complex. That is, the superpower status has become defining component of Am-Psyche. Americans (that include their Presidents also) cannot visualize a state sans this special tag of Super Power and this, in fact, has become a sort of obsession. On any real or imaginary threat, the bullying tendency dictates or decides the reaction. Iraq and Afghanistan are just examples.

Regards

Kartha



  dimwit posted 3 mnths ago

GG,

I am a contrarian by nature.  I find it impossible to jump on any lynching mob bandwagon.  It seems politically correct nowadays to dump everything that is wrong on Bush's doorstep - and I'm just pointing out that it just ain't so.  

He did many things wrong including (in my opinion) steal the election from Gore, the fact that he was MIA for the first 24 crucial hours post 9/11 and then his emotional overreaction to it; his environment track record; his *crusade* diatribe; his complete inability to control/influence the OPEC nations and let them bankrupt the world while enriching themselves and more... But not *everything* that is wrong in the US is his fault - and quite frankly things are not that wrong either.

I find it ridiculous that so much that is wrong with the world today is directly linked to the price of oil - yet the world wants to blame the US for it (?!) rather than the greedy OPEC nations.  For me it is yet another example of how people kow-tow to money and want to kick the strong when they are even temporarily down.  This lack of rational thought boggles my mind!!!!

My perspective is neither glass-is-half-full nor glass-is-half-empty; it is simply acknowledging that there is half a glass of water.  :)  I find it difficult to get worked up over politics and economics and religion.  All three are my fav topics for discussion and so I like to maintain a clear perspective when discussing.

Cheers
Dimwit





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